Podcast #6 Simple Courage

What is Simple Courage?

In this episode, you get to hear my guest Heather Hubbard tell you just that!

Heather's brand Simple Courage is all about being bold, courageous, and brilliant. Her goal behind her brand is to push individuals as herself, to try new things and get out of their comfort zone.

Heather talks about being inspired, challenged, and in a place to constantly be taking action and being innovative. 

Heather's talks about her disruption in life from Covid-19. She has used this disruption to grow personally and professionally. She talks about being bold, being brave and completely changing things around. She used this time to really help those affected by Covid, and really researched how she could serve them. Heather took an entire month off to work to think about what the best way to do this was. And she came back with her amazing idea to do limited edition masterminds, and a Summer Camp, (Which you will get to hear more about in Episode #7)

Through these events and masterminds, she creates a journey for people.

We discuss the transformation they experience through her events and the impact it has on them that lasts for years to come.

We discuss our desire to have new experiences, deep conversations, and how over the surface level stuff we really are. We are ready to have real conversations that help us grow personally and professionally! 

In conclusion, I want you to ask yourselves, “How bold, how brave can we be?”

I hope you enjoy this episode!

                                     5 Rapid Fire Questions for Heather

1. What is your mantra? - Hustle and Flow
2. What three words would you use to describe yourself or your brand? - Bold, Courageous, Brilliant
3. What is your least favorite mode of communication? - Text messaging!
4. What outfit makes you feel like a badass? - I love jumpsuits, I have one in my signature green color, I love the cut on it and every time I get on stage, I’m wearing it! 
5. What are your brand colors and why did you choose those? - Green and a goldish-yellow.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to brand disruptors. I am Mia Lamont, your host, and I want to welcome my friend, Heather Hubbard today. Heather, tell the folks a little bit about you and what you're up to.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thanks for having me on me. Yeah. Yeah. I'm Heather Hubbard and I am a former attorney. I left. I was an entertainment attorney for over a decade. I was in one of those really big law firms doing that fancy pants, corporate thing. And I loved about five years to start my own company. And I work with, you know, high level professionals and entrepreneurs up to really, really big things. So some people come call me a coach, but I really consider myself more of a strategist and a matchmaker and a connector. So I mostly lead events, retreats and high end masterminds. That's that's my world.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yes. Speaking of like, I had the opportunity of attending a summer camp that Heather put on last week. And can I tell you, it was absolutely amazing. I don't know how you pulled it off. And everybody, everybody who attended was like, this was one of the most amazing experiences I've ever had. It was amazing. It was incredible. And the feet yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Showed up and they stayed and not just stayed, but they were just like, what am I experiencing? Yeah. I think,

Speaker 1 (01:31):
I think the fact that you didn't give us all of the clues ahead of time did lead to a lot of the adventure and people wanted to see what was going to happen next. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Well, that's very on brand for me. I know we're going to kind of talk branding, but that's very on brand for me. It drives some people crazy, but it really is. That is if you're, if you come into a Heather Hubbard experience is going to be asked of you to keep an open mind and not really know what's coming next, because I think that that's where some of the best transformation comes from is not knowing what is right in front of you. Yeah, so that's very unbrand.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah. All right. Well, speaking of let's talk, let's talk branding for a second. Yeah. Tell the audience, like, what is your mantra?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah. You know, the interesting thing is I had a podcast for a really long time that I just shut it down last month to start another one. And it was hustle and flow. And that has been my mantra for, I mean, so long. And that's why I named the podcast that it really is hustle and flow. So you know, I am so dang driven and ambitious and hungry and I'm unapologetic about that. But I also learned how important it is, right. To have flow. There were so many years when I did not have flow and now really having that flow. So I'm very you know, I, I'm very spiritual. I, every morning I'm going to meditate and I'm going to journal, I'm going to pull a tarot card. I'm going to be in that space. So it really it's hustle and flow. It's right. Brain left brain. It's just always being in that state of being in the moment while also like really looking ahead and pushing for the life that you want.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
I love that. That's so awesome. And then we're going to talk about how, why you shut that down and which are you going to be doing next? I want to hear all about it. What three words would you use to describe yourself or your brand bold

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Courageous? I was going to say confident. Let's say brilliant. That's actually, that's the motto for the 2020 experience, but it actually bold, brave, brilliant is the motto for the 2020 experience. But in many ways I think it actually describes my brand.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah. Well, I mean you are the brand, right? Yeah. All right. So tell me, what is your least favorite mode of communication? Attacks

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Message team. I hate it. And which is crazy because that's what everyone loves and I hate it. I think it's because my fingers are big and it's just, I'm always like, give me, like, give me a keyboard. If I have to type, I want a keyboard.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Ah, I see. I see. Alright. So tell me your outfit that makes you feel like a total bad ass.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Okay. So my favorite outfit at the moment, I love jumpsuits. I love jumpsuits. And you saw me at summer camp wearing my green jumps. And so for the longest time, I always felt like you can only, like if you're onstage, you can only wear one outfit once. And I've actually just embraced new. Like, this is my outfit. It makes me feel like a badass when I'm wearing it, I can move in it. And it's like my signature green color. I love the cut on it. And I'm like, no, like I'm just every time I get on stage and give this keynote, I'm wearing it. I don't even care.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I love that. I love that. So who are we not catching on? Like what would you never wear?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
What would I never wear? Probably lots of things. I'm actually really picky. But you're never going to see me in and like, I don't even know the right word for this Mia. Is it called empire? It's like basically anything that right? Like it's gonna just flare out. Yeah. Well that could be eight wine.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
It could be the empower waste. It does that too.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
That's what, yeah. Like you're not going to see me in anything like that.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
You're not gonna be wearing anything, not flowy.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
So here's the thing, like, you know, I, for me, my body shape, I'm small up top, but I have a small waist and then I've got big hips and thighs and I like actually accentuating the curves and the like in my waist and hips. And when I wear clothes, right. Like that are like real baggy up top or it like, it just takes all that away. And I'm like,

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, what's the point, right? Nope. Not for me. Yeah. I agree. Like, I definitely love to wear clothes that, that actually follow the lines of my body instead of the ones that kind kinda like take away from it. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. So what are your brand colors and why did you choose them?

Speaker 2 (06:29):
So my brain colors, so green, green, green is my favorite color and it's always been my favorite color. And it's interesting. I, you know, growing up, this is so funny the stories that we have and keep with us for so long, it's crazy. I always want to growing up like a really bright green or like Hunter green, like that, those were the colors I wanted all over my room and, you know, late seventies, early eighties, that was not the right color. And so my mom would make me always have like these Aqua greens. And I was like, I don't like Aqua green. And so it was so funny. Like I didn't have a lot of that. And then I dyed my hair red back in like 2016, which I also always wanted as a child. And I was told like, you can't do that. And I was like, I'm dying my hair red, which feels like the most authentic thing ever. And the green just goes with it. It is so who I am and I just embraced it. So it's the green, and then we also have some gold goldish, yellow. And you know, I actually worked with someone on those colors. I can't say that the golden yellow I feel strongly about, and I know there was a reason behind it, but I'm not gonna lie and try to make up what it was. I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah. And that's it. So rain is really your, your thing though. Yes.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
The older I get, the more I try to embrace who I really am and the way I want to present myself.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
And so it's like, Hmm,

Speaker 2 (07:58):
It's like, what's the psychology behind green. I'm like, I don't know. I don't really care. I love it. And I wear it every day. Like I wear it all the time. And so when I go to events and I'm not always wearing that same jumpsuit, but when I go to events where people see me out there, like, of course you're wearing your green. And so like, I love that people associate that with me. They're like, it's your green? I'm like, yes, it is my green.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah. And the green and the red are opposite each other on the color wheel, which is why they go together. Right. Which Christmas. And that's why it goes so well with your red hair. Yeah. Yes. All right. Let's get to it. What, what made you shut down the podcast? Like what is this disruption all about Heather? Yes. So I have,

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I had on a posted note, I can see it here. You guys can not, I've had this note that said simple courage for years, and it was a concept to me and something I was working on in my own life. And I was like, Oh, that would be such a great book. That would be such a great keynote. I should really talk about that stuff. One day, one day, you know, when the audience is big enough, when I've got like, you know, enough established financially one day, I'll get to that thing that I really want to talk about. And it's been up there forever. And I finally, last year, last year I embraced the keynote and I started working on it. I spent an entire year on it at the simple courage keynote. You saw it at summer camp. It was amazing. Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Thank you. And now I'm like really going all in. And so I want to do the book and when COVID happens, anytime I, you know, I'm constantly looking at, am I aligned? Am I aligned? Am I aligned? But when COBIT happened and we were having to ship so many of our things in our programs, I was just, do we want to do the obvious pivot pivot just because we can, or do we want to take a moment to say, are we fully aligned? And do we want to take a moment to say, what are the opportunities and where can we really push boundaries? And there was just a part of me that was like simple courage is what it is. And the reason I'm not doing it is because I'm afraid, right? Like if I'm being honest, it's because I'm afraid. And I think it has to be done in a certain way.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
And I was like, what if we just challenged all of that? What if we challenged all of that? And I think we all need it more than ever right now. And so it was like, okay, here's what we're going to do. We're going to shut down hustle and flow because so many people come to me. They have the last few years because they want coaching or handholding, which I can do. But honestly is my zone of excellence, not my zone of genius. And I was like, why do people keep coming to me? Who, you know, are wanting like this handholding? And then I was like, well, it's because I've got a podcast where I'm giving a gazillion tips on like how I could hold your head. And I was like, you know, what, what would happen? And it's like, right. So successful. It's got all these subscribers.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
I was like, what if we shut it down and forget the book? Like, you can still do it, but like, why not just do a podcast? Like if you've got a message to share, why not put it out on a podcast because we build it up. Right. And that like, really, it was like, why not Heather? And I was like, Oh, I don't know. These are the, this was a conversation with myself. And I was like, yeah, yes. And so I told my podcast producer, I was like, we're going to shut hustle and flow down. And we're going to do simple courage instead. And he was like, well, let's just rename it so we can keep your subscribers. I'm like, no, we're going to be bold. We are going to be brave. We are start all over. It's two different things and which is really scary. But you know, I've done that once before I left the legal career, you take something that is lucrative. It is working well. And you say, and yet this is not where my heart is aligned and I'm going to do what I really want to do. And I'm going to trust that journey. So, but it's, I mean, it's scary, right?

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah. I mean, cause you had to do that too with summer camp. Right. I remember talking to you, I think it was either January or February, like, Oh, we're going to be doing a summer camp thing. It's going to be an awesome, it's going to be a mirror of all. I want you to come like, come hang out, let's do this thing. And I'm like, hell yes. And then you were like, Oh, we're going to do it, but it's going to be virtual, but I'm going to be there. Like, how did you even get to that?

Speaker 2 (12:30):
You know, the interesting thing is, so, you know, you're on the expert roster for our 2020 experience people who are amazing. But they really, a lot of them were really taken out by, COVID not literally, but figuratively, like it just messed with their minds. And I saw them all pulling back and shrinking and saying like, well, all of my plans for 2020 are over. And they were so sad that we weren't going to be at mirror ball with, you know, that. And so it started from a place of how am I going to serve them, right. Like, how am I going to serve them? And it goes back to the, alright, are we just going to do the obvious pivot? And I was meeting with my team and I was like, well, we have to lead by example. So this, this experience was about going bigger than they've ever gone before and facing their fears in a way they've never faced before.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I said, so if we're not leading by example, we can't ask them to step up. So I was like, all right, how big can we go? How scared can we be? And I didn't have the answer at that point, but I then told my team, I was like, all right, here's what we're going to do. We're going to take a month off. Right? Like I'm going to shut down all the revenue streams, except this mastermind. I'm going to take a month off. I'm going to get into my creative space. I'll come back and let y'all know what I come up with. And of course I come back and I'm like, and we're going to do summer camp. And then we're going to do limited edition masterminds. And they're just like, and we're doing it. We're doing, we're doing what and when and how. And we, we somehow pulled it off, but that's, that's how it came about. Was really just being in that place of if I had a blank page. And if I am truly trying to show up for these women and the way I'm asking them to show up, what does that look like? And that's what it looks like for her.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Oh my God. It was like, and you could tell that all of that care went into it because as you were demonstrating for us, right, like I'm showing up, I'm doing this really big thing and it's super, super scary. Look, I survived it actually, I thrived during it because I mean the speech, the keynote phenomenal, like I think everybody was, might've been in tears. Like we totally felt that Von and I were texting each other the whole time. And we were like, this woman is amazing. It was, it was, it was one of those because you were so vulnerable and sharing your story. I was like, okay, what can I do now? And that's why I was like, all right, I want to have on the podcast, I want us to do this. The second part of the series, I've even written a newsletter about your summer camp, just so you know, I love it

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Texted me the, and this is why, and this is why the message needs to get out there. And it's also why you, you heard it, right. So it is vulnerable. It's also why it's like, it's nice to have on a PostIt and not actually have to say it out loud to the world. But someone texted me and said, you know, I was having a conversation with a high school friend and he said something that made me feel very uncomfortable. And normally I would have just let it slide. She goes, when I was drinking out of my simple courage cup, and I was thinking back to the keynote, she goes, and I said something, and that is what it's about. That is what it's about.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yes. Oh my God. I love that. I love that. So one of the reasons why I wanted to attend and got the VIP ticket was because I'm also coordinating some kind of event next year, that might, that is going to be hybrid. Right. So I was like, all right, I need to see all of the things and see how she did it, but basically would made it a success other right. Was that it was the vulnerability. It was the, the innovation that you put into it and really just like stepped out on faith. And I think that that's what made it different from everybody else's experience.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. I've always considered myself as someone who creates transformational containers. And I've always considered myself as someone who can take people on journeys. Because even though I don't tell people where I'm leading them, it's very, very intentional and I'm not, I'm not afraid of shaking things up. And so I knew we could still take people on a journey and I literally thought through every single moment and what do I think people need and what have they not seen and what can we test and what can we play with? And I would move it around and move it around and move it around until I got it where, you know, I really thought it should be. And the interesting thing with that, because it's so right. Like there's no other word for it other than it's just interesting how we hold ourselves back.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Oh yeah. I've always had that gift and I've always had that ability, but I often would hide behind like the whole coaching or the people need the practical tips or they, and I can do all that stuff. Right. And like, I can do it all day long, but my true genius is creating those experiences in those containers, which are sometimes hard to sell. Because they're a bit amorphous, you know, and it's, and I've always had that issue. Like even when I leave retreats people, I couldn't always describe what it was. And then people would come in and be like, that just changed my life. And I would be like, can you describe your experience? Like trying to get a testimony? And they'll be like, I don't know how to describe that. Right. Like it's every, it's like, I'm like, how do you capture that? Like, from, from a business strategy perspective, that's not clear communication. Yeah. But I'm starting to embrace that. Okay. Maybe that's maybe I don't have to have that piece. Would it be nice? Yes. But if I'm truly delivering the way I know I can, I leave people speechless and that just is what it is. And so just learning to be in that space and embrace that. And I have to say it's scary, but so much fun. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah. I mean, I saw one of the testimonials and I think somebody said that they were and blown away. So I don't know why you can't use that. And I also think that, you know, just saying, well, I can't even explain to you what I experienced it, but I know that you have to go and experience it yourself. Yeah. Right. That's I mean, that's what it was. It is like, I'm so interested to see where we're all going to be talking about when we do talk about our experience at summer camp, just because like, I know where my takeaways were, but I know that when I left there, I did feel transformed and I've been to lots of transformational things, but to feel lighter, like you get inspired and you, you know, but I had committed that day. Like I was going to take like one symbol, one act of simple courage every day because of what you said. Right. So that to me is the transformation. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
That's the thing though. Every, because it's interesting. I never walked in and saying, I want this person to have this, this particular outcome or this particular transformation. I trust that they're there for whatever reason they need to be there. I trust that they're going to get out of it, whatever they need out of it. And when I create those magical journeys, it is so layered that I know like, they're like, no, one's going to get every layer, but it's going to, you're going to be hard pressed to come in and not get one layer. And to me, that's where the magic comes from. And with like the arc types you know, alchemy is one of mine and that's what it is. Right. I mean, that's, that's kind of that mystical magical. Alchemist's like, you're going to be transformed. It's like, like in what way? And I'm like, I don't know, like you just got to come and find out,

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Right. It's your journey. It's your experience? Like the transformation will happen. You just gotta be present to it. Right, right. Yeah. You're just going to be in the room.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I know. That's what I, that's what I tell people. And they just look at me and they're like, what? And I'm like, you've just got to be in the room. I tell you what yours will be. But I know I create these containers and these journeys that, you know, I literally have people who they would, I'm trying to think, like back in 2016, I had people who, they were like, they would see an Instagram ad or a Facebook ad. They didn't know me from Adam. And they would be like, I just feel like I'm supposed to be here. And so they would literally spend like $5,000, get on a plane, show up, not knowing me or anyone else. And they'd be like, I don't know why I'm here. I got an ad. I never do things like this, but I just feel as though I'm supposed to be here. And I'm like, perfect. I agree. I believe that everything's connected and you know, divine, and then they'll have their transformational moment and they can be literally, I won't hear from them again and years later they're like that, like that retreat or that event changed my life and the trajectory of my life in ways that like, I am still, like, it's still, like, I'm still learning from it. And I'm like, that's just right. Like, that's, it's, it's going

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Password better testimonial than that. I mean, it's something that, you know, for, to, to have that kind of effect on someone where year after year after year, they're still feeling the effects of one event.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah. That's those bladers. And that's not, I mean, you know, I don't want to get too low, but like, I'm just like the best, not me. Right. Like, I mean, I was just, I was a portal. I was a messenger. There's just so much more at play. Right.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. So tell us about this, the transition. So you have the 2020 experience limited edition. Now tell me about that.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yes. So this is a crazy thing, right? Like I had all of my workshop events around business development, the marketing and the sales, because that's what people want from me. And, you know, in goals and planning and we had, you know, the, get it done, all of that. And I literally shut all of that down, shutting all of it down. And we're just going to do simple courage, both with the keynotes and that. So that's going to work, we're going to have two brands, so that will be a brand. And then I'm going all in on mastermind experiences. And so I'm really just going to be in the moment of what experience do I want to create next. And the experience that I wanted to create for the rest of the year was really for the woman or man, although it's mostly women, you experienced this, right?

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Like we have all, like the vast majority are female leaders. So not all men are to walk in that room, but we had some and they were awesome. So I was like, I want to create this mastermind where people can come in at a super high level and have like real conversations and real connections. I mean I lead masterminds and I've been in a ton and I just feel like there's so much posturing and there is just so much just, you know, fake bravado and the so there's that going on? And then I also feel like there is a lot, like a lot of the masterminds. You have people come in and it's almost like a webinar, it's a monologue they're talking to you. And you just get to a certain level where you're like, I don't need that. Like, I don't need more training.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
What I need is access to people who know others or have resources to things that I do. I don't know. Hmm. And I want to be surrounded by people who inspire me and challenge me and push me. And I, I want to be in a space of just taking action and being, you know, really just innovative. And so I was like, okay, well, what does that look like? So same thing with summer camp, right? Like, well, what does that look like? And what does that journey look like? And of course there's like, I, like, I know all the transformational pieces that are even behind it and all the magical moments that like you, that aren't part of like the pitch at all. But, but yeah, so we've got three different parts to it. One is having a super, it gets very highly curated.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
The people who were together, it's like only three to four people that they all have expertise, knowledge that where they can help the other person to really navigate. So it's a bit like it's a bit matchmaker. And then a third of it is these round tables where we're going to dive deep into conversations and they're being facilitated by like amazing people, right? Like who have written bestselling books and things like that. And then we're having activity Q and a. So like our very first one is with Maneet show Hahn, who is a celebrity chef. She's on the food network, she's got cookbooks. She has her like restaurant empire. And so we're going to cook with her for 30 minutes, getting creative, you know, getting that creative space. And then we're diving deep into questions and it's opened up to the whole group and it's still, it's still super intimate because I don't think we'll have more than 40 people in the group.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
That's going to be somewhere between 20 and 40 and so real intimate access to people that like, are doing amazing things that we want. Right. Like, so it's like, they've got Grammy awards, they've got television deals, they've got book deals, they've got all these things and it's where we want to be. Even if it's not our industry. Right. It inspires us. And so that's what that mastermind is about. Like, it's really about like, forget the way the industry does it forget the way these tiny little niches do it. Like we're creating what we need in this moment, but, and you know, even that's innovative because, you know, I literally went to people and was saying like, Hey, I want to do this. And they're like, what? They're like, no one's ever approached us to do this. And I'm like, well, I'm you? And they're like, well, what do people, what do people charge for that? And I'm like, I don't know, it's brand new. Well, what do you want to like, give me, give me a quote. Let's, let's talk money. And it's just so interesting. And they're like, yeah. And that's what I love about high level entrepreneurs like that. They're always gamed, not a single person told me no, they were all like, this is awesome. Let's talk about this. So yeah, we're going to be, it's, we're going to be meeting the rest of the year. I'm actually participating in a pod myself.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
That's super cool. Yeah,

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Because I mean, this is the thing, anytime I create things I don't know about you. Like, I also create what I need.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Absolutely. Absolutely. Like I'm going through my own course right now. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Right, right. So that's what I need. I need, I want to be inspired. I want access to people. I normally wouldn't have access to. And I want to be deep in the trenches with conversations and women and men

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Who

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Don't want to do surface level, like we're over surface level. Right. Like we're ready to have the real conversations that are going to help us grow personally and professionally.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah. I'm having a conversation with a lot of people. Because I think that that's exactly why we're in this space that we're in, because surface is over. Everybody needs to go deeper. And then the people who aren't ready to do all of that and how they're like, we're just going to be left behind. Really? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
It's like theory. Like, it'll be so interesting to see, like, because I'm, I just know that like, so similar thing, like you're not gonna be able to walk into that mastermind, the same person who leaks that mastermind. And I just experienced more growth in the last six to eight weeks, like personal, right? Like the personal and professional, like really putting myself out there growth. Then I would have in like an entire year had COVID not happened. And that like, that's the space I'm creating. It's the, how bold, how brave can we be? And I can't wait to see what actually happens and what comes from that because it's going to be bad ass

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Me either. I can't wait to see it either. Okay. Anything else that you need the audience to know about or that you want to talk about today? That's you know, like what else what's next? Like I know you don't even know yet. Right? You're so cute. Thanks.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah. Well, so simple courage. The podcast will be coming out and I will already tell you, so I'm already talking to, you know, I've always got, there's a million things going on up here. I've already been talking to my, my podcast producer and I'm literally like saying like, I want to do this and I want to do this and I want to do this. And he's like, I've never seen anyone do that. I'm just in such a creative space and like trying to just challenge every, everything that's out there, every story I've been told, every system and funnel and whatever that I'm trying to, you know, all out the window. So just wait is probably gonna come in October. Okay. So if you want to follow me on social media, you'll definitely know when it comes out. So it's add Heather, do we Hubbard? But we're going to be turning the podcast concept on its head.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I love this idea. I can't wait to see what you're doing. I can't wait. Anything else? No, no. I mean, not,

Speaker 2 (30:12):
No, not that I, I mean, that's enough, right? Like that that's enough between the mastermind experience and the simple courage. Like it's, it's plenty that will keep us busy for the rest of the year. We're going to do our next virtual event, January 4th and fifth. It's going to be it's the 20, 20 after party which is really planning for 2021, but it's kind of a play on words and thoughts and concepts, because I think this will be the first time in a long time that it's not a good clean break. Right. January one, it's not going to be the way January one normally feels is. So after parties are always the best. So we're just tongue in cheek. We're gonna, we're going to call it the after party in 2020.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
I love it. So, okay. So how did they find you on Instagram if they want to book you for the simple courage speaking? Yeah, so

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Instagram or Facebook at Heather joy Hubbard. And if they are interested in the keynote, which I do virtually and presumably in person at some point again they can, they can find it on the website, which they can actually just go to simple courage.com and they'll get it that way.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Awesome. So you, you actually got that. Some of the cars

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I bought it, I bought it. I had been following it for years and was, you know they, they weren't gonna give it up. And so I made, I made that investment. I made the investment and purchased, paid, paid to get it back in may, because if I'm going to go all in, I'm going to go all in. So it's just to me, it's like, when you do things like that, it's like saying to the universe like, okay, I'm here for it. Like I'm legit here for it. It's no longer a post it note I'm legit.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yes. And you are like, you're actually walking the talk. You're actually taking those steps of simple courage and I'm here for it. Yeah. So excited to be a witness. Yeah. So I want to thank you for coming on today and guys like, seriously, go and follow Heather. I can't, like we said, I can't explain to you guys what actually happened at summer camp. We're going to try in the next episode. But it was just one of those amazing experiences that I'll never forget. And I want to thank you for creating that.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Thanks for coming. And thanks for having me on the podcast. It has been such a pleasure getting to know you and thanks to Vaughn for introducing us.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I know we have a, we have a client, a mutual client that introduced us earlier this year. So that's how this happened. People like you just got to get out there and do your thing. Yes, you're so right. Yes. That's simple courage. Yes. Bye guys.